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Anarchy is such a huge topic, and one that deals in individualism. This video will help guide you in solving problems from an anarchist point of view.
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coz: "there is no ... ( 2 months ago by hallelujaallahuakbar)
coz: "there is no violence in somalia"
Yeah, and the USSR was all milk and honey too. What about the ICU? Which part of the country are you talking about when you say there is a peaceful, operating anarchy?
Again, when your system allows for other countries and religious hordes to begin instituting laws, then you don't have something sustainable.
It's like owning the most beautiful car in the world, that breaks down the following day.
there are examples ... ( 2 months ago by cozmikzen)
there are examples of successful and unsuccessful societies. in both instances, the citizens involved were not anarchists. they had been indoctrinated into whatever society they were raised in. they were not taught what would be considered anarchist values. if they had been, they would have been more successful. it would be better if everyone knew about anarchy BEFORE their society falls. since usa isnt looking so good, it is only wise to understand the reality of the situation
The ICU(Islamic ... ( 2 months ago by Person009)
The ICU(Islamic Courts Union) has been trying to setup a government under Shia law. Ethiopa along with the US and some others have been fighting them to prevent it while trying to setup a government of their own. The fighting is the fault of the statists. Anarchist success because the private sector of business has increased greatly since the government fell. Human nature is a reason for anarchy in that sense, why give someone bad limitless power?
hell yeah ( 2 months ago by cozmikzen)
hell yeah
coz : "they were ... ( 2 months ago by hallelujaallahuakbar)
coz : "they were not taught what would be considered anarchist values. if they had been, they would have been more successful."
Sounds like you'd get rid the intelligentsia faster than Stalin did to institute "anarchist values" so you can have successful free utopia.
Person009 : "why ... ( 2 months ago by hallelujaallahuakbar)
Person009 : "why give someone bad limitless power?"
It's not that someone bad is GIVEN limitless power, it is that someone bad TAKES limitless power.
I find it rather laughable to say that the killing is due to statists. Do you actually think there are a substantial number of ideological anarchists in Somalia?
In the end, nobody is blameless, as everyone is trying to institute their idea of what the state should be - this includes anarchists.
Person009 : To sum ... ( 2 months ago by hallelujaallahuakbar)
Person009 : To sum up, if your entire political ideology hinges on the idea that everybody has to for all intents and purposes has to buy into your ideology or the whole system breaks down, then you don't have a system.
You have a utopian ideal. 'Let them eat cake', 'Wouldn't it be great if everyone worked for free?'. Is this teenage rebellion?
Taken in the case ... ( 2 months ago by Person009)
Taken in the case of Somalia as there is no government right now. Given would be our politicians, their positions are enforced by corporate pushers,not for the care of the citizen.
They're not anarchists because they chose to be but they are because they're without rulers. I'm sure those running the business in the private sector appreciate it much more. Theres a vid here on youtube about the growth of airlines.
Its not utopian in ... ( 2 months ago by Person009)
Its not utopian in any sense. No rational anarchist, or person for that matter would believe so. It makes more sense for anarchism to be argued as the realist viewpoint. Just taking observations at how fucked up and hypocritical some politicians are. You can't put this faith into a government as if it were god, they're just people too. Why should I have to live under someone elses law just because they have a nametag? I haven't hurt anyone or stolen anything.
"They're not ... ( 2 months ago by hallelujaallahuakbar)
"They're not anarchists because they chose to be but they are because they're without rulers."
Without any decent rulers at least. If you believe someone there is not answerable to someone, then you're kidding yourself. Read 'Infidel' for info on their clan system.
"I'm sure those running the business in the private sector appreciate it much more."
I'm sure smugglers and pimps absolutely love it! Oh, how great is the morality of the private sector!
"Just taking ... ( 2 months ago by hallelujaallahuakbar)
"Just taking observations at how fucked up and hypocritical some politicians are."
Oh, and under anarchy I won't be confronted by fucked up hypocritical people? Wow.
"Why should I have to live under someone elses law just because they have a nametag?"
Because in the end majority rules, so we may as well have a fucking election!
It's like asking why gravity has to apply to nice people.
totally untrue. ... ( 2 months ago by cozmikzen)
totally untrue. majorities dont always rule. there are many different types of societies besides anarchy and democracy. ours isnt a true democracy anyway, its a republic...more realistically an oligarchy.
every single one of them is effected by gravity, gravity is a natural law, no political system is...so, sorry, bad analogy
Maybe it is a bad ... ( 2 months ago by hallelujaallahuakbar)
Maybe it is a bad analogy, but can nothing in society just be a given? i.e. that you can't rule without the consent of the majority forever. If not this generation, the next.
I would take this a step further, and say that the majority will eventually see its desires realized, in some shape or form.
So, working with ... ( 2 months ago by hallelujaallahuakbar)
So, working with that assumption, (and I realize its an assumption because I don't think we have enough history behind us to say for certain) then democracy is a fine form of government, if applied correctly, when we say it is the only institution where minority views are given a brief audience.
The only thing that would seem to matter in anarchy is money. You got some money, you're fine. Otherwise you're screwed.
A leader is ... ( 2 months ago by Person009)
A leader is different from a ruler in this context. A ruler imposes laws onto one another. Leader is just someone people to to guidance for. I never stated that people like that would disappear, but they do not have the power someone, lets say Bush has. I really dislike the tyranny of the majority thing, and you sit there supporting that but then insult the Somali peoples morality. I don't understand why people get upset when someone says I support a free society as long as no ones rights
are stepped on. I ... ( 2 months ago by Person009)
are stepped on. I don't understand why people get so afraid by that. But if you're dwindle this down to insulting those people because of ignorance then forget this.
I didn't say I ... ( 2 months ago by hallelujaallahuakbar)
I didn't say I supported majority rule. I said it pretty much happens regardless. If you split America into anarchists forming factions, the biggest won will still win if there was ever a conflict (and from human history, we know a conflict is basically guaranteed)
I don't get how you can balkanize power and not expect conflict. That is not freedom, that is merely a pointless struggle.
And further, I did ... ( 2 months ago by hallelujaallahuakbar)
And further, I did not insult Somalis. I actually recommended a book written by a Somali.
'I don't understand why people get upset when someone says I support a free society as long as no ones rights are stepped on.'
I'm not upset about that. That's just a easy statement. It's like saying you like puppies - who doesn't?
I'm more concerned about your practical implementation of your free society. I believe it has been shown, time and time again, that humans are incapable of anarchy.
there has never ... ( 2 months ago by cozmikzen)
there has never been an opportunity for people schooled in anarchy to take control.
on another level, look at it this way. you are arguing against self representation. what could be more free than that? all that government money going to waste. We could be making most of those decisions from our own living rooms.
Free represenation ... ( 2 months ago by hallelujaallahuakbar)
Free represenation on what decisions? What to have for dinner?
For my will to extend beyond my living room, in anarchy I'd have to organize with a lot of like minded people - oops! statehood! can't do that!
if thats your reply ... ( 2 months ago by cozmikzen)
if thats your reply, you havent really comprehended anything we have said.
i guess you must know better than anyone huck-yuck.
Well, if I don't ' ... ( 2 months ago by hallelujaallahuakbar)
Well, if I don't 'get it' enough to play within your invisible framework/rules, then I doubt the majority of the population is capable of it.
i agree. i didnt ... ( 2 months ago by cozmikzen)
i agree. i didnt come to these conclusions over night. it took a lot of self motivated questing for the truth . i was like everyone else. every system is the enemy of anarchy and its been demonized, probably longer than any other government. it is the key to personal freedom. it must be achieved 1 person at a time, until such time that it is widely accepted and taught from parents to children as morality, and ultimately however u want to take it, anarchy is the moral high ground
yes, it requires ... ( 2 months ago by cozmikzen)
yes, it requires more to be an anarchist. you have to be responsible,for yourself, the people u care about, and hopefully to teach and help others. if you dont want to be a herded sheep, then you have to exert some of the effort of ruling yourself. taking personal responsibility to make the world a better place right now and into the future.
i know it works, because i am one.
the word itself is hard to get by people's indoctrinated definition.



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